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Saturday, October 24, 2009


Parallels with the Civil War?

Given the extraordinarily divisive political nature of our country today, I'm intrigued with this astrological reading on the United States by British astrologer Liz Greene. She’s one of the world’s most well-known astrologers, author of several best-selling books on the subject, a practicing Jungian analyst and co-director of the Centre for Psychological Astrology in London.

She based this 2005 reading on the Sibly chart ~ derived from eye-witness accounts of the signing of the Declaration of Independence ~ that puts the birth of the United States precisely at 4:50 p.m. on July 4, 1776, in Philadelphia. Greene's reading covers the period in the U.S. from 2008 to 2024.

Here’s what I found interesting:

In the horoscope of the United States, Pluto, as it moves through Capricorn, is opposing the Sun in the natal chart, reflecting major and irrevocable changes on many levels. This aspect has occurred only once before in American history, during the period of the Civil War. Although it is not intrinsically an aspect of war, it challenges the deepest definitions of what constitutes nationhood, and raises many issues of autonomy and the way in which the government is structured and how much authority it may or may not exercise.The deeper issues underlying the Civil War concerned not only human rights, but also the autonomy of the individual states comprising the nation, and these issues may once again rise to the surface as new ways of defining the national identity are proposed.

She goes on to describe some other astrological attributes of the U.S., then concludes with:

Whether or not you favour these changes personally, it would seem that a time has arrived when there is a great new opportunity to affirm the values and ideals of the original founding of the nation, applicable not only to government and to foreign relations, but also to the land itself and the resources inherent in it.

Click here to read the full chart.

2 comments:

Astroplethoramaman said...

In the horoscope of the United States, Pluto, as it moves through Capricorn, is opposing the Sun in the natal chart, reflecting major and irrevocable changes on many levels. This aspect has occurred only once before in American history, during the period of the Civil War.
Huh? When the Civil War began with the Ft. Sumter bombardment, Pluto was in the 9th degree of Taurus, moving to the 13th degree of Taurus at the time of the surrender at Appomattox--close to a sextile with the USA Sun (Sibley). Nowhere near as earthshaking a "hit" as the conjunction (in the 1920s) or the opposition now beginning to unfold.
What is more interesting to me about the astrology of the Civil War is that it began as Uranus conjoined natal Uranus, and with the most recently discovered planet--Neptune--in the last minutes of the last sign, Pisces.

Gregory LeFever said...

Thanks for visiting, Astro. You know much more about all of this than I do, but I found Liz Greene's analysis interesting. It almost sounds like you two are looking at quite different charts.

I leave it to the far better informed than I to sort this out.

I appreciate your provocative comment!